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NBC Sports essayist Tim Layden reexamines the controversial, unresolved and still-ongoing saga of the 2019 Kentucky Derby, where a historic disqualification was just the tip of the iceberg. #NBCSports #HorseRacing #KentuckyDerby
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  • @liettemaccoul162
    @liettemaccoul1624 жыл бұрын

    This guy takes his job so seriously 😂 he needs to narrate horror stories not horse races. I got chills watching this purely due to the way he talked

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Liette, I like him. I think he speak well.....loud and clear.

  • @hayzyhorses6899

    @hayzyhorses6899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he gave me chills at the end. Great voice.

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hayzyhorses6899 .....Hayzy, I think he is talking about the guy who is narrating in this video, not the one who called the race.

  • @hayzyhorses6899

    @hayzyhorses6899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agustin DeJesus Yes, that’s who I was talking about, the narrator.

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a controversity..MAXIMUM SECURITY..Never had a bad test..yet lost both biggest races in the world..sad

  • @twicethechamps
    @twicethechamps4 жыл бұрын

    Just think, if War of Will had won and then still won the Preakness, the Belmont would have been a lot more important. Instead, we ended up with probably the most unpopular Triple Crown season ever.

  • @havoth

    @havoth

    3 жыл бұрын

    except for maybe the COVID Derby...Triple Crown all messed up.

  • @200991602

    @200991602

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought WOW should have gotten the trophy for his gymnastic qualities. This reminded me of how Afleet Alex handled the Preakness 2005 incident.

  • @twicethechamps

    @twicethechamps

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@havoth Or now the 2021 season, unreal.

  • @PatrickPelosi-hx7tk

    @PatrickPelosi-hx7tk

    4 ай бұрын

    Servis biggest cheater ever with Navarro

  • @mysticpuffy
    @mysticpuffy3 жыл бұрын

    The video doesn't lie, the jockey lost control of the horse when he was "scared" jump off the rail two lanes, and impeded another horses path. It's pretty straight forward. The decision took forever because it's the Kentucky Derby, you can tell the nervousness in that little room with the stewards. What's not shown is the steward lady, making a few phone calls while they are doing the review, probably calling important higher ups at the track to notify them before this huge decision is public. This was not easy even though the video is cut and dry.

  • @darkhorseash4337

    @darkhorseash4337

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah like, I understand why it was a hard call to make because of the implications but it's pretty clear it was the right call.

  • @montanawarren8462

    @montanawarren8462

    2 жыл бұрын

    They never show you in the news clip War of Will ducking behind Maximum Security.... in Ann Old father's clip it shows you the entire race where Gafflione could not handle War of Will around the whole race track...his mouth was wide open...+ he's got a white eye on that side WHICH CUTS DOWN HIS FIELD OF VISION! Cassie never put blinkers on War of Will till AFTER he did the SAME THING TO MONGOLIAN GROOM...THAT HORSE HAD TO BE PUT DOWN when he FRACTURED A hind leg.....

  • @davidthompson62

    @davidthompson62

    2 жыл бұрын

    The horse was probably so jacked up on illegally injected steroids that it didn’t know what it was doing. This is why there is such strict testing after races now as his sudden jerk outside could have cause serious injury to both horses and jockey. If you have ever witness such a thing on the track, as I have on a couple of occasions, it’s not a pretty thing. When you watch a horse go down break both front legs that send the jockey flying over the horse, you’ll better understand why maximum Security had to be disqualified.

  • @adotintheshark4848

    @adotintheshark4848

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think if no one had brought up the infraction, the race would have stood as it was.

  • @davidthompson62

    @davidthompson62

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adotintheshark4848 But that is every Jockey’s responsibility; to request a Stewart’s Inquiry in case of a foul. What I don’t understand is why the jockey most effected by the foul didn’t file an official protest after the foul. The Stewart’s could have rewarded it first place if they wanted to!!

  • @TheRebelliousrabbit
    @TheRebelliousrabbit3 жыл бұрын

    the two horses suffered the worst while humans were fighting for money

  • @token555

    @token555

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ain't that how it usually goes?

  • @horsehaircreationsbykaren

    @horsehaircreationsbykaren

    Ай бұрын

    These horses were bred to race, it's what they love to do. Non horse people will never understand this, these animals are not suffering, they are doing what they were born to do.

  • @hayleehampton1352
    @hayleehampton13524 жыл бұрын

    Max had so much potential but ofc he got put into the wrong hands smh

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    He didn't have potential. That's why he was juiced.

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Max was in the hands of the people that bred him. He was so ( full of potential) that they tried to dump him for $16,000 and nobody was interested, that's when jason servis began doping him.

  • @joggyjames

    @joggyjames

    4 жыл бұрын

    had? he’s the best horse in the world today.

  • @hayleehampton1352

    @hayleehampton1352

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damien Jô no he’s not, at this point he is no where close to it.

  • @joggyjames

    @joggyjames

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleehampton1352 please Haylee, who do you rate ahead of him? since you said not close there should be multiple horses you rate ahead, i look forward to your reply.

  • @briaginter4837
    @briaginter48373 жыл бұрын

    I love how you narrated

  • @jakreu
    @jakreu4 жыл бұрын

    Welp..if Maximum Security had not been disqualified, the whole drug thing would still have come to light. Imagine his downfall if he had been at stud already - hundreds of mares carrying a foal that may be sired by a derby cheater.

  • @JACKDAWFISH

    @JACKDAWFISH

    4 жыл бұрын

    There is no evidence that MS was drugged.

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    4 жыл бұрын

    People dream of drugs...they use as reason for their drug use...leave the poor horses alone ......lasic helps stop bleeding...duh

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    @David Turco....Google jason servis P E D ring there is serious evidence that Max was doped. servis would have gone to trial in April but it was postponed because of the Coronavirus.

  • @tatorkator9901

    @tatorkator9901

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stanweiser3927 it wasnt lasix it was max growth hormones.

  • @johnlivesey7892

    @johnlivesey7892

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trainer's and veterinarians who give illegal drugs to horses should be warned off for ever. Also the race track where the horse was given the drug should be fined, It's there job to know what the horsemen are doing in the stable area...

  • @the_inmortal_1349
    @the_inmortal_13493 жыл бұрын

    What we should be "reexamining" is the 1980 Preakness Stakes, where Genuine Risk comes around the corner and Codex jockey looks back realizing he won't win, so he hits her in the nose a few times, causing her to come in second. She did however win the Derby, technically won the Preakness and came second in the Belmont. Best a filly has ever done.

  • @carlgregoire9511

    @carlgregoire9511

    Жыл бұрын

    Here here, I was watching and felt let down by the lack of justice for "historical purposes" she definitely ran her heart out, Lukas should revisit the race and give an honest opinion and justice for Genuine Risk and her team.

  • @VegaStar1010

    @VegaStar1010

    Жыл бұрын

    I totally agree. Justice for Genuine Risk!

  • @HannaFardew
    @HannaFardew4 жыл бұрын

    When they showed the move that got Max disqualified, I thought there was going to be an accident on the track even though I knew what the outcome was. I'm with the people who disqualified him because that could have turned very bad, very quickly

  • @joggyjames

    @joggyjames

    4 жыл бұрын

    war of will caused the chaos... clear as day to see.

  • @emmabesko4124

    @emmabesko4124

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damien Jô Maximum Security swing out wide and cut him off. War Of Will was not at fault

  • @sheltiesong

    @sheltiesong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Casey Crites - Are you for real? Advocating for someone’s death over a damned horse race?!?!?!?! What a sad commentary on your character. Reported.

  • @jeffsnell2795

    @jeffsnell2795

    4 жыл бұрын

    ANY contact between horses can turn badly on the track...And he bumped War of Will and it was nothing BLATANT...War of Will did not almost FALL...Stop Dramatizing the incident...And an accident did NOT happen so it is irrelevant

  • @sheltiesong

    @sheltiesong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Snell - A hind leg was between another horses forelegs. NOTHING else is relevant. By your argument, someone should be able to cut you off in traffic so long as you manage not to hit them.

  • @lindafogel740
    @lindafogel7403 жыл бұрын

    No blame for either beautiful animal again the human fails To me they are both champions ♥️♥️

  • @JACKDAWFISH
    @JACKDAWFISH3 жыл бұрын

    Oops Maximum Security just won another race sans drugs (July 25, 2020)

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    3 жыл бұрын

    No drugs found in Maximum SECURITY..again ...in Saudi Arabia Race..whats going on..maybe accusations are jealousy..???

  • @saveus228

    @saveus228

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stanweiser3927 trainer already admitted he used an untraceable PED the whole time he had maximum security. the horse equivalent of Marion Jones

  • @UconnHuskieees

    @UconnHuskieees

    Ай бұрын

    Is he dead now

  • @Aaron_R
    @Aaron_R4 жыл бұрын

    It was the right call. This happens at the racetrack periodically. Inquiries/dq are part of horse racing.

  • @jeffsnell2795

    @jeffsnell2795

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not in the Kentucky Derby and 20 Horses in the field and on a wet track...Worst DQ in history of the sport

  • @RedCard94

    @RedCard94

    4 жыл бұрын

    People are just upset that it was in the BIGGEST horse race in the world. But...it's still just a horse race. And it WAS the right call, I agree.

  • @hayzyhorses6899

    @hayzyhorses6899

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel bad for the trainers, owners, and rider of MS. But I have to agree it was the right call. It was a dangerous situation, and although it wasn’t on purpose and no horses got hurt, it’s still enough to dq. If he hadn’t gotten disqualified, people might try that move in other races, and they might get someone hurt. It’s sad it was such a high profile race, but I agree with the decision.

  • @dfreeman8240

    @dfreeman8240

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hayzyhorses6899 great outlook in a difficult situation.

  • @hayzyhorses6899

    @hayzyhorses6899

    3 жыл бұрын

    Michael Kurchak The best horse doesn’t always win, in fact, often the best horse doesn’t win. If the best horse always won, Horse racing would be a lot smaller. There would be no point in racing if you never won, and only a few horses ever did. Also, in that case, betting would be useless, because we would always know who would win.

  • @elizabethredmond5517
    @elizabethredmond55174 жыл бұрын

    Given Servis' shady career and the fact that War of Will could've been killed, I think they made the right decision. The way the pack was close together at the turn made it so that if Maximum Security had gone any far out multiple horses and jockeys would've been seriously injured. The fact that Servis administered illegal drugs to horses since just makes it all the clearer that Derby officials made the SAFEST decision. I also respect Country House. Even if the race had gone smoothly, the odds were so incredibly against him that second place would've been a triumph. That horse ran amazingly, and I think more people should respect that as well. I'm sad he got so sick. He deserves to have his name on Churchill Downs. He won officially and that's that.

  • @darkhorseash4337

    @darkhorseash4337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I dont think the jockey meant to do it. But that's so dangerous for everyone involved someone could've been killed so easily

  • @SaraNightfire1

    @SaraNightfire1

    Жыл бұрын

    ⁠@@darkhorseash4337 It doesn’t matter if the jockey nor the horse purposefully bumped or not. Even if the horse spooked, it’s the jockey’s responsibility to keep control of the horse. Horse races are extremely dangerous, you’re riding at the speed of a car on a animal with delicate legs and a small tack with straps holding the rider on. Add a thousand pounds or more likely more that can flip on you when a horse falls in front of you, especially tightly packed with no room to get out of the way. Picture going forty miles per hour with no seatbelt, no windshield, not even any safety devices, and the car can flip on you, and you hit something hard enough to go to not only a dead stop, but that weight lands on you. That’s what you are riding. It’s something that stewards in ANY race penalizes riders and horses on.

  • @williamdunphy352
    @williamdunphy3524 жыл бұрын

    An outstanding piece by Tim Leyden.

  • @joseflores8282

    @joseflores8282

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why? Have you ever been to the races? Do you like seeing horses breaking their legs and being put down?

  • @dvanhoose01

    @dvanhoose01

    3 жыл бұрын

    Horse racing is the oldest sport in history it won't go anywhere

  • @micaylaoconnor3102
    @micaylaoconnor31023 жыл бұрын

    I love how people think this isn't commonplace on the racetrack.

  • @petehoward8494

    @petehoward8494

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly. Especially in the mud.

  • @DM-tf6mk
    @DM-tf6mk3 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching this live last year. To this day I still disagree! My opinion

  • @michellenainkristinabusch1221

    @michellenainkristinabusch1221

    Ай бұрын

    Your opinion is to favor cheaters

  • @jameslimon3137
    @jameslimon31373 жыл бұрын

    I love this horse he’s a fighter, he never gives up

  • @chrisoxford4026
    @chrisoxford40264 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't sure if I was watching The Derby or Saturday night Live

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark48483 жыл бұрын

    There was obvious interference in this race, but what is extremely rare is that a jockeys' inquiry was actually accepted. I've watched a lot of races. Stewards' inquiries are usually successful, jockeys' inquiries are usually not.

  • @davidthompson62

    @davidthompson62

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s because the foul is so obvious. Different states may have different rules for Stewart’s inquiries but the jockey’s involved are usually contacted by the track Stewart’s to make their case (in stakes races).

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    Жыл бұрын

    A Dot, jockey claimed faul....but the stewards were watching the race....they are not stupid. They knew what was going on. Country House also did disappear after this race.

  • @whitehorse927
    @whitehorse9273 жыл бұрын

    😥😥😥 proud to you Maximun Securiry. Maibe the next race you got it..💪💪

  • @PT-he6sr
    @PT-he6sr3 жыл бұрын

    The Stewards are normally asleep during the Race and you need to ring them to wake them up.

  • @sheltiesong
    @sheltiesong4 жыл бұрын

    Max had his hind leg literally in between another colt’s forelegs. That, right there, is how horses die. The right call was made.

  • @TomLiberman

    @TomLiberman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I posted a still of that on my social media to try and shut down the complainers. Maximum Security pulled off the rail and impeded two horses behind him. It's lucky there weren't dead horses and maimed jockeys. It was a simple DQ and I wish they had made it immediately rather than dithering for so long.

  • @sheltiesong

    @sheltiesong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tom Liberman - Exactly! Not sure if it was your still or someone else’s I saw, but anyone with hands-on horse experience who doesn’t find that image petrifying has no business handling horses, in my book.

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes the horse behind MS was put up MS was cause of bad handling...duhh

  • @kenbrickman4412

    @kenbrickman4412

    4 жыл бұрын

    But if you watch another angle Maximum Security never moved out until War of Will's legs were between his hind legs....ever try running straight when someone runs up behind you and gets their legs into yours Zola Budd ?

  • @darkhorseash4337

    @darkhorseash4337

    3 жыл бұрын

    And thats how JOCKEYS did

  • @SuperPapa29
    @SuperPapa294 жыл бұрын

    Of course he was fouled. The winner was taken out at least two lanes.

  • @Kai_Equine
    @Kai_Equine4 жыл бұрын

    Quick Question/s: 1: Can we expect to see any horse/s trained by Bob Baffert running in this years Triple Crown races (Kentucky Derby,Preakness Derby, & Belmont Park) , or in any Breeders Cup? 2: Is the Kentucky Derby and the rest of the Triple Crown races still going to begging on the new race dates?

  • @RajatKalal

    @RajatKalal

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are alot of em, but the big ones are 'Nadal' and 'Charlatan'

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Raja, he broke them getting them use to the drugs before the big races.

  • @RajatKalal

    @RajatKalal

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@agustindejesus7398 bitter truth, as u see I hd made a comment before they got injured, was very hopeful of Nadal winning the Derby n even Triple Crown for that matter, its such a shame to lose a gr8 horse on track

  • @samsonbeast2
    @samsonbeast24 жыл бұрын

    The Derby shouldnt have been postponed. You can also see Saez trying to steer him to the rail. If you don't want these problems put less horses in the race.

  • @joseflores8282

    @joseflores8282

    3 жыл бұрын

    You don’t know what your talking about. There was no problem. The jockey violated the rules and was placed behind the horse that he fouled. In Basketball, should three pointers still be worth points if the players foot is on the line. In football, should touchdowns be awarded if the runner almost crosses the goal line. Why horse racing should the rules not count?

  • @samsonbeast2

    @samsonbeast2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joseflores8282 Horse racing is quite subjective, you cannot expect 20 horses to run in a straight line around a wet track. If that was the case many horses would be dq'ed in many races. Horse racing and rules don't go into a sentence together, it is a sport were half of the jockeys are coke addicts that get on drugged up horses.

  • @joseflores8282

    @joseflores8282

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@samsonbeast2 Have you watched many horse races? Disqualifications happen. The odd part that it hasn’t happened in a Kentucky Derby. The rain does not affect the races that much ( With regards to safety ). Most tracks are made to handle wet conditions and horses have good footing on dirt or muddy tracks. The jockeys are required to control their horses. Yes, many jockeys have a problem with drugs and 20 horses is a lot for a race. It looks like this year’s was drugged, because he should have won the Preakness. I guess that drug works.

  • @donimarshall2310
    @donimarshall23103 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone notice the three very best jockeys didn't rode in this years Derby isn't this suspicious especially knowing that neither any of these outstanding jockeys have never won the Derby except for Saez who won but lost it in the stewards room

  • @danieldobrosky6203
    @danieldobrosky62032 жыл бұрын

    Been in this game for decades i always thought with the derby with so many horses that you would have almost kill a horse and that's what happened

  • @RealJackHQ
    @RealJackHQ4 жыл бұрын

    1999 ended in an enormous upset, same with 2009, and 2019. What happens in 2029? I’m just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️😂. These 9’s are very sneaky sometimes.

  • @RealJackHQ

    @RealJackHQ

    4 жыл бұрын

    Santiago Macahilas I hope we all can too. 🙏

  • @callumgowar

    @callumgowar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same with 9/11!! 😉

  • @joseolguin6505

    @joseolguin6505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha one of the best races ever 2009 MINE THAT BIRD

  • @RealJackHQ

    @RealJackHQ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joseolguin6505 Raced 1,2,3 in the Triple Crown when no one gave him a shot.

  • @joseolguin6505

    @joseolguin6505

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RealJackHQ yes sir! Good little decent horse. Unfortunately chip Woolley threw it all away

  • @dickfitswell3437
    @dickfitswell34374 жыл бұрын

    3:34 "painted letters on the facade" lol you mean "metal placards screwed into the facade" They could have been painted onto the metal placards but likely printed.

  • @ratherbfishing455

    @ratherbfishing455

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can't remember what it is.

  • @lbarbados38
    @lbarbados382 жыл бұрын

    Of course Servis found guilty of doping...a shame for the horse.

  • @redbrian3655
    @redbrian36553 жыл бұрын

    4:49 Now that is the first time I have heard this! Very interesting as days have gone by.

  • @nessmabuyo7357

    @nessmabuyo7357

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup! The trainer of that horse #8 is Bill mott also train Country house.

  • @MrNeto915
    @MrNeto9153 жыл бұрын

    Horse doping is part of this brutal sport. I worked 5 years as security supervisor @ Sunland Park Racetrack and the doping issues are out of control. Especially with qtr. horse. Not good..

  • @Pitt-ny8cj

    @Pitt-ny8cj

    Ай бұрын

    Are you whistleblowing or just blowing?

  • @MrNeto915

    @MrNeto915

    Ай бұрын

    @@Pitt-ny8cj the only thing I’m blowing is ur moms back!!!

  • @opiokapi4418
    @opiokapi44184 жыл бұрын

    Horses are stunningly beautiful creatures. All of them are winners 💞🤗🐎🏇🐴

  • @glg5933

    @glg5933

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but they’re being abused because of this “ sport “ ugh I can’t even call a horse riding discipline 🙄🙄🙄

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rachel Alexandra was the most beautiful filly I ever saw.

  • @kamzalot3

    @kamzalot3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Liv Du peloux what 😂

  • @seabiscuit7116

    @seabiscuit7116

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@glg5933 uhhh..what do u know about this industry??

  • @glg5933

    @glg5933

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many clouds in the sky enough to know that this is unacceptable. More 2500 horses die on race tracks every year because of being overworked , injured , or just simply die on the track because they trip. Some even brake their front legs in half . Also race horses that aren’t picked to run on tracks , were do they go you ask? Well they go to the kill pen. Then jockeys spend the whole fricking race whipping the crap out of their horse . Does it hurt when YOU get whipped super hard whip? Well it hursts the horse even more because they have thinner skin then humans ( humans have an épiderme of 0,8 mm and horses 0,5 mm ) . Just do a simple google search and you can find thousands of articles of why this « sport « is very abusive. You are most certainly not an equestrian or horse person because if you are you should know better . All of us normal people who don’t practice this bullcrap don’t know what happens during these horses training but it’s most certainly very ugly. Humm.. ugly.. that’s the most gentle word I can think of when it comes to the people who thinks horse racing is great. I most certainly do not know a lot about this trash industry and I’m glad I don’t because I can’t stand all the abuse that is done to these beautiful animals who deserve respect like any being. Make your research.

  • @madelinetramantano8302
    @madelinetramantano83022 жыл бұрын

    IF ANY ONE GETS HURT DONT LET IT BE THE HORSE.

  • @2ak215
    @2ak2154 жыл бұрын

    just remember you won by disqualification 😂😂😂

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's also well known that Max was doped up, his trainer has been busted.

  • @joshcolbert5613

    @joshcolbert5613

    4 жыл бұрын

    UHHHHHHHHHHHHH hello???? Servis is in jail and MS was doped

  • @LorayV

    @LorayV

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you’re *salty* 😝

  • @randyswanson4461

    @randyswanson4461

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Chris hughes wrong

  • @russe19642

    @russe19642

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just remember he'll always be remembered as the 2019 winner

  • @awoketoolate9864
    @awoketoolate98643 жыл бұрын

    My first time watching horse racing as an adult. While watching this race for the first time without knowing anything, I said to myself: the jockey in pink (who won at first) and horse pushed others aside. So the final outcome confirmed what I had seen. I was thinking that an accident could have occurred.

  • @darkhorseash4337

    @darkhorseash4337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I get why the decision is controversial because the horse who ended up winning didn't but...it was clearly such a dangerous move by maximum security. That could've killed people or horses.

  • @awoketoolate9864

    @awoketoolate9864

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkhorseash4337 Indeed!

  • @babsbat

    @babsbat

    Жыл бұрын

    you need to quit thinking

  • @Denis94jack

    @Denis94jack

    9 ай бұрын

    Roubo

  • @vannosaljordan9392
    @vannosaljordan93923 жыл бұрын

    Another sport where winning is in the eye of the judge. Once a fine sport.

  • @sul9891
    @sul9891 Жыл бұрын

    The part the got me was “a race in the mud still not finished”

  • @Rager_U
    @Rager_U4 жыл бұрын

    Garbage headline. There is no "controversy", and there certainly wouldn't have been any if it had been any other horse race. Would anyone who says otherwise have given Scrappy T the 2006 Preakness had he crossed the line first? Maximum Security took the turn like a 2 year old horse (or a 14 year old automobile driver), and was deservedly DQed for it. And whether or not it was intentional is irrelevant.

  • @JACKDAWFISH

    @JACKDAWFISH

    4 жыл бұрын

    He actually was still 2 at the time of the race regardless of his official birthday. What you you do if a horse repeatedly thrust into the back of your legs while running.

  • @nickb7089

    @nickb7089

    4 жыл бұрын

    Controversial: giving rise or likely to give rise to public disagreement. There was public disagreement. Whether it was the right call or not doesn't matter. It was still controversial. Hence not a garbage headline.

  • @danmar2227
    @danmar22274 жыл бұрын

    MS is a great horse..2019 till now

  • @tatorkator9901

    @tatorkator9901

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was he great before or after the growth hormones?

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's a cheaply bred horse that was juiced for racing. That does not equate with "great".

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Santiago Macahilas FBI has it on tape, Servis talked to a vet about how to dodge a positive on what he was juicing the horse with. The vet agreed to provide the paperwork to make it look like a false positive. The horse was juiced.

  • @jeffb5785
    @jeffb57853 жыл бұрын

    I said it then, I say it now Maximum Security won

  • @rpierce3336

    @rpierce3336

    3 жыл бұрын

    But he didn't. Horses interfere all the time in horse racing. The derby is no different.

  • @petermarshall6577
    @petermarshall65774 жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness the wasn't a primetime 4+ horse pile up..disaster for the "sport"...

  • @kc4315
    @kc43154 жыл бұрын

    You watch older races and see the same things happened with no mention. Many horses get mugged at the start of the race and nothing is ever done about that. This was very unfortunate to happen in such a high profile race. My friends that attended said the fans left like deflated balloons. The thought was the best horse did not win. It put a kabosh on their Derby experience. Maximum Security proved himself later, he is the real deal.

  • @emmabesko4124

    @emmabesko4124

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, rules are rules and they need to be enforced. In my opinion, War Of Will should have won and he would have if Maximum Security hadn’t cut him off

  • @ciaradominguez1468

    @ciaradominguez1468

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emmabesko4124 Agreed. I can only imagine what the Derby outcome would've been if this wouldn't have happened. I did have my money on MS, but I didn't start freaking out that I lost my $2 (unlike others). ^^I believe they are withdrawing the purse. Not sure if you know, but MS is now being trained by Baffert.

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    Karen, using your criteria per the deflated fans and all, they should just line the horses up on the track and let the people in the grandstand cast a ballot on who they want to be the winner. MS broke one of the major rules of racing by interfering with other horses to the point it could have killed horses and riders. The DQ was justified. The stewards could NOT overlook it.

  • @leobowman8149

    @leobowman8149

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean a quarter of the people there were betting on him so, no surprise they weren't happy.

  • @ratherbfishing455

    @ratherbfishing455

    3 жыл бұрын

    It might be who you know.

  • @yumitokushige8486
    @yumitokushige84864 жыл бұрын

    Poor horse. You don't need to think of animal rights or abuse when it comes to a horse race, do you? Depending on a horse or any human and jockey, the muddy ground makes you handicapped more than necessary.

  • @equidaes

    @equidaes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uhhh are you alright? 😂😂

  • @yumitokushige8486

    @yumitokushige8486

    3 жыл бұрын

    Equine Nicole What? I'm F jobless. Not alright.

  • @yumitokushige8486

    @yumitokushige8486

    3 жыл бұрын

    Equine Nicole are you a horse?

  • @CrazyRachel1984
    @CrazyRachel19843 жыл бұрын

    Heartbreaking... Thank God Maximum Security is with Bob now! He is the name in racing and has never done his horses wrong

  • @lisapownall4753

    @lisapownall4753

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually he has now been retired to stud at Coolmore Farms.

  • @ciderlord4621

    @ciderlord4621

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can be a Baffert fan, but he has numerous drug violations and had a string of deaths involving young horses a few years back. Even in the book on American Pharoah there were nods to him doping. He’s certainly done horses wrong quite a few times.

  • @joseolguin6505

    @joseolguin6505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol he just recently got two lidocaine positive tests 😂

  • @katefishing5612

    @katefishing5612

    3 жыл бұрын

    Baffert has most certainly done his horses wrong...

  • @gloriawelch3603

    @gloriawelch3603

    3 жыл бұрын

    And now baffert is under the eye.

  • @user-jn2ok9nz8p
    @user-jn2ok9nz8p3 жыл бұрын

    Some one should make a movie out of this store 👍🏽

  • @LBCGriffin
    @LBCGriffinАй бұрын

    I was there, in the grandstand, and I remember watching them come around the turn into the stretch and thinking, “he is ALL OVER THE PLACE!” He very clearly interfered.

  • @patrickduncanjr.6847
    @patrickduncanjr.68473 жыл бұрын

    They should have had an investigation of the stewards and find out who made all the money on taking Maximun Security Down. That was complete bologna. 140+ years and no horse had ever been disqualified! Unforgettable and unforgivable!!!!!!!!

  • @michaellucas669

    @michaellucas669

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was the right call

  • @melaninmonroe161
    @melaninmonroe1614 жыл бұрын

    No Derby this weekend! My city Louisville❤️

  • @racer776690

    @racer776690

    4 жыл бұрын

    At least you will get it September...think about Belmont stakes 😢

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sense, don't feel bad. We are all disappointed all over the the US.....it is so boring. Stupid Belmont Stake race is over. Let's way to see if we are allow in the track by September the 5th.

  • @KimBTown

    @KimBTown

    3 жыл бұрын

    :-/

  • @madelinetramantano8302
    @madelinetramantano83022 жыл бұрын

    THESE MEN SHOULD BE IN JAIL.

  • @michellenainkristinabusch1221

    @michellenainkristinabusch1221

    Ай бұрын

    The trainer is.

  • @patrickduncanjr.6847
    @patrickduncanjr.68473 жыл бұрын

    Watch Bayern win the 2014 Breeders Cup Classic. Doesn’t get disqualified. Stewards need to be more accountable and way more consistent!

  • @jeankaye3535

    @jeankaye3535

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah never did understand that one! He literally wiped out half the field at the beginning of the race yet the stewards didn't think it had any influence on the outcome????

  • @danieldobrosky6203

    @danieldobrosky6203

    2 жыл бұрын

    I won so much money on that race i was so stunned that they let that stand i will never forget in lol

  • @JackTheripper911

    @JackTheripper911

    Ай бұрын

    Yes Bayern should have been disqualified then, however just because the stewards missed the call then, doesnt suddenly make their call in the 2019 Derby invalid. It was the correct call to make 100%. They do need better consistency and higher accountability. But if you're trying to argue against the 2019 Derby call, just because they missed a call years earlier at an entirely different race, you're going to have to do better than that.

  • @andrewkleinhans4235
    @andrewkleinhans42352 жыл бұрын

    To a horse that wasn't fouled? What race are you watching? Country House was moved a good 2-3 paths further out because Maximum Security made a right hand turn. Just because he wasn't directly fouled doesn't mean his opportunity to win wasn't impeded.

  • @hectorroca9523
    @hectorroca95233 жыл бұрын

    Best horse won on the day and beyond- champion 3 years old 2019 and potential Horse of the year 2020-

  • @waqarkhan25
    @waqarkhan252 жыл бұрын

    the poor Country house will be remembered for his second-place turn to victory than his story of how mother quake lake died while giving birth to him as a foal and how he was nursed back to the health nurse mare but still to wake to be sold as well

  • @raygordonteacheschess5501
    @raygordonteacheschess55014 жыл бұрын

    I just claimed foul against the narrator.

  • @richardgrace4500
    @richardgrace45003 жыл бұрын

    Secretariat got replaced to second after winning a race for doing less than that... all he did was "supposedly" make contact with the horse that ended up coming in second

  • @hardcorps5317

    @hardcorps5317

    3 жыл бұрын

    We cannot compare the new millennium to those days.

  • @DanielSong39

    @DanielSong39

    3 жыл бұрын

    That DQ was legit too, it was a dangerous move

  • @hens13
    @hens133 жыл бұрын

    11:10 as if Baffert is the trainer you want to avoid doping lol

  • @dvanhoose01
    @dvanhoose013 жыл бұрын

    Horse racing is the oldest sport in history and who is trying to cancel it

  • @crystalregan2481
    @crystalregan2481 Жыл бұрын

    Maximum security won that race... I remember before the race I admired him it kind of remind me of Secretary of his with his built and color .. oh I was livid that beautiful horse won that race

  • @patrickrahilly8872
    @patrickrahilly88723 жыл бұрын

    How was the issue surrounding the winner being disqualified so a 65-1 can be declared winner not investigated? If I was ANY US attorney that would be my first question.

  • @_congrats

    @_congrats

    3 жыл бұрын

    What does 65-1 mean?

  • @markforster6457

    @markforster6457

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_congrats If you had bet $100 on Country House you would've won $6,500. The odds were 65 to 1 against C.H. winning the race.

  • @_congrats

    @_congrats

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markforster6457 thank you!

  • @michaellucas669

    @michaellucas669

    11 ай бұрын

    Because he definitely cost 2 other horses a better placing .. thems the rules and it was the right call

  • @rick-be
    @rick-be Жыл бұрын

    Gaff is young and didn't claim because he did not want to soil the Derby.

  • @LouisHackmann

    @LouisHackmann

    2 ай бұрын

    True

  • @clintrichardsonclintfromny203
    @clintrichardsonclintfromny2033 жыл бұрын

    On to the Breder's Cup we go

  • @JorgeLopez-zv1or
    @JorgeLopez-zv1or3 жыл бұрын

    They should investigate Baffet as well!!

  • @Pitt-ny8cj

    @Pitt-ny8cj

    Ай бұрын

    They have and he was suspended and tarnished what else you want

  • @randyswanson4461
    @randyswanson44614 жыл бұрын

    But why wouldn’t Tyler g riding wow file the objection? Very,very weird to me that he wouldn’t

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    I read that Mark Casse instructed him not to. Can't recall the exact reason now but it had to with being sore losers and so forth.

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Randy, he finished 8th. Claiming foul was not going to help him. Maybe he is good friend of Saez. If he had finished second he might has say we are friend but you are coming down, and iam going up.

  • @AuthenticMage
    @AuthenticMage4 жыл бұрын

    Servis should have his training license revoked at all tracks. Yet, if you look at morning works you’ll still find his name as trainer

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was scheduled for trial in April, it was postponed because of the coronavirus. I don't think he'll ever be allowed to train again. Jason Servis, who recently saddled Maximum Security to victory in the world's richest race, and Jorge Navarro, whose horses have earned more than $37 million since 2008, were among 27 trainers, veterinarians, and others indicted March 9 in federal court on doping-related charges in racing.The indictment specifically alleges that a designer, performance-enhancing substance was administered to Maximum Security in 2019, when he was named champion 3-year-old male.

  • @AuthenticMage

    @AuthenticMage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Apparently there are 2 trainers named Servis

  • @roninslv

    @roninslv

    4 жыл бұрын

    He has a younger brother John who won the 2004 Kentucky Derby, and Preakness with Smarty Jones. Their father was a jockey.

  • @MegaLlamalord
    @MegaLlamalordАй бұрын

    This minor thing gets a full feature video. Yet Justify gets to slick off into the background for cheating with almost no backlash

  • @davidkent8606
    @davidkent86064 жыл бұрын

    The truth is the race should never have been run in such appalling conditions, that's what caused the near pile up, which led to the disqualification.

  • @joseolguin6505

    @joseolguin6505

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s been run in much worse conditions

  • @ys66666
    @ys66666 Жыл бұрын

    Even maximum security looked sad

  • @frostedicepharoah7723
    @frostedicepharoah77234 жыл бұрын

    It’s too bad for all the other horses that the Kentucky Derby will not happen until September, because now they have to suffer the wrath of Maxfield.

  • @DoubleDogDare54

    @DoubleDogDare54

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maxfield has to stay sound between now and September. He's already had soundness issues so that might be an issue.

  • @SomeStupidSketchShowGuy

    @SomeStupidSketchShowGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well now hes done for the season because his legs are tooth picks so there goes that plan. Now feel the wrath of Tiz The Law

  • @agustindejesus7398

    @agustindejesus7398

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DoubleDogDare54 ....Double, Maxfiel is out now, and he will be out in September. He might not run anymore. When they get injured more than ones they never come back.

  • @clockendfarm6425
    @clockendfarm64254 жыл бұрын

    "Country House clomped up in second, never threatening Maximum Security" at the exact time Country House is closing on Max like a freight train. Yeah, great commentary there, NBC.

  • @thresh9606
    @thresh96062 жыл бұрын

    bro thats racing you block those who try to pass end of story

  • @thefrase7884

    @thefrase7884

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly plus in the Kentucky derby the stewards would never say anything until it’s brought to them

  • @babsbat
    @babsbat Жыл бұрын

    it wasnt a bad day but horreble desintion

  • @stephens5697
    @stephens56974 жыл бұрын

    War of will ran into max and caused contact at least three times before max moved to the right. Max won the Saudi cup too

  • @tatorkator9901

    @tatorkator9901

    4 жыл бұрын

    Max was also given max growth hormon also war of will never actually made contact until max started moving over, when max moved into him.

  • @stephens5697

    @stephens5697

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tator Kator you can clearly see war of will runs up the back end of max try to squeeze through to the outside. There was no room for him to pas and he caused the contact 3 possibly 5 times that nearly cause max to go down. Tyler and war of will where out of control the entire race

  • @tatorkator9901

    @tatorkator9901

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stephens5697 max started moving WAY before people actually start noticing. Watch a close up video again and look at the tire tracks. War of will was moving into a clean spot and max ran into him.

  • @krusty9570

    @krusty9570

    4 жыл бұрын

    You MS fans are whiners. Anybody that’s unbiased if they’ve really looked at all angles of this race understand that MS CLEARLY veered outside just as soon as WoW started to creep up beside him. It’s so obvious and the overhead angle that’s shown on this very video proves it!!! Easy decision. Clear foul on MS.

  • @krusty9570

    @krusty9570

    4 жыл бұрын

    goodymfla 🤣🤣🤣because you moron. It’s always the fans of the person or in this case the horse they feel got cheated! You’re not very bright are you 🤣🤣

  • @ElizabethStephenskronner55
    @ElizabethStephenskronner55 Жыл бұрын

    I hear the snorts of my horse I feel his hooves pounding the ground I see his muscles quiver with excitement The beauty of this animal cannot be overstated He rejoices in his strength His red coat gleams in the sun and his eyes widen with excitement My horse is the most gorgeous animal on the planet He is a proud creature who’s love of running matches my love of riding I am one with him and he is one with me He rejoices when his feet fly off the ground The wind in his mane and in my hair The rush of the race fills our blood and veins We aren’t silent about this This growing need to fly across fields and speed across beaches I lean forward and whisper “Fly my love. Let them see your strength and your speed. Let me be the one who feels those muscles beneath me as I become your whole. Fly my love. Let me be your rider.”

  • @calebwhittington1960
    @calebwhittington19603 жыл бұрын

    horse racing is so weird, how he get disqualified for that? thats like a generic racing tactic, in any sort of race, human, car, dune buggy, motorcycle, dirtbike, mountain bike. like why im so confused 😂 bc he cut someone off? like is it a safety thing? im genuinely asking cus im new to horse racing

  • @markforster6457

    @markforster6457

    3 жыл бұрын

    In horse racing it was a dangerous move. What if horses stumbled and fell? Horses and jockeys could've been killed or maimed. If you notice, one of the horses actually kicked M.S. once or twice, while trying to adjust. Saez was suspended twice more after the 2019 Kentucky Derby, serving a seven-day ban after a bumping incident at Belmont Park in June 2019 and a 10-day penalty for interference at Saratoga two months later.

  • @jayrubin8519
    @jayrubin85193 жыл бұрын

    Servis, navarro and baffert are just the beginning. Look how the win percentages have dropped on the top trainers at belmont. The trainersand vets are being very careful. ,

  • @carnl6184
    @carnl61844 жыл бұрын

    Poor horses and people omg 😳

  • @ed9492
    @ed94924 жыл бұрын

    Can't we just cancel 2020 completely? Between Coronavirus and politics, it's just too much. Not that I expect 2021 to be much better.

  • @smala017
    @smala0174 жыл бұрын

    Stop trying to stir up controversy. Maximum Security was rightfully disqualified. If there’s any controversy here, it’s that War of Will doesn’t get enough compensation here. The bottom line: you have to respect the decisions of the officials. The rules don’t go away just because it’s a big event.

  • @darkhorseash4337

    @darkhorseash4337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, war of will probs deserves more but theres no way to tell which is disappointing

  • @PeterSmith-wc4lg

    @PeterSmith-wc4lg

    Ай бұрын

    Madness max never even bump or impede no 1

  • @adamagresta5384
    @adamagresta53843 жыл бұрын

    If Jose Ortiz doesn’t mention the bump on Gaff to Prat is there ever a claim of foul?

  • @howardcampbell6796

    @howardcampbell6796

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was John Vlqz on the 8 horse who mentioned it to Pray

  • @sksksrara1906

    @sksksrara1906

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Howard Campbell that’s jose riding the 8 tacitus while john rode code of honor

  • @DanielSong39

    @DanielSong39

    3 жыл бұрын

    Code of Honor was fouled on the rail too and that definitely affected the race

  • @LexyTheEbikeQueen
    @LexyTheEbikeQueen13 күн бұрын

    Iam literally so confused what happened

  • @S00NJ1
    @S00NJ13 жыл бұрын

    I got Tiz The Law who yall got?✌

  • @9Ballr
    @9Ballr2 ай бұрын

    As I understand it the rule says that in order to disqualify the horse the outcome of the race had to be affected. I don't think Country House was impeded much at all and still couldn't catch Maximum Security, so I'm not sure disqualifying Maximum Security was the right call.

  • @angelmarieslifestylecorner7900
    @angelmarieslifestylecorner79003 жыл бұрын

    Ugh how awful and tragic

  • @allthedumbusernamesaretaken
    @allthedumbusernamesaretaken Жыл бұрын

    The stewards made the right decision, but Luis Saez didn’t get enough credit in my opinion. He managed to get Maximum Security under control and make sure nobody was hurt.

  • @SantiagoFigueroa-dv9cg
    @SantiagoFigueroa-dv9cgАй бұрын

    Maximum security won plain and simple! Clearly the best horse that day! The track was dangerous and a move was made to keep him on track! The people that doubt him don’t ride horses and it shows!

  • @joshcolbert5613
    @joshcolbert56134 жыл бұрын

    servis wasnt even mad he new he was doping the horse. Great Karma

  • @jeffsnell2795

    @jeffsnell2795

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Bafferts Doped up horses keep getting caught and injured...Karma

  • @parulianhutasoit256
    @parulianhutasoit2563 жыл бұрын

    I see maximum securiti error does not exist, still remains in its path.about the last turn is commonplace. The referee is dishonest, which means something's wrong with them.

  • @shermanlee2552
    @shermanlee2552 Жыл бұрын

    In the old days the 40the50and60 you run the best race you could and a win was a win. Let them run 🏃‍♂️ 😤 and if they win so be it 😏 🤪 😉 😌 💯

  • @pokerphil1st
    @pokerphil1st6 ай бұрын

    There will always be corruption in sport that involves large amounts of money.

  • @bigdaddycash6564
    @bigdaddycash65643 жыл бұрын

    The Millions of dollars bet on Max is why.

  • @usmcforever7630
    @usmcforever76303 жыл бұрын

    The pricipal instigator was Jose Ortiz (no.8 horse’s jockey) to convince the second place winner to declare foul so Ortiz could improve his final position to third place and win $300.000.00. Maximum Security did move out of his lane but it didn’t not affect the result of the race. I notice that the jockey and horse supposedly fouled didn’t not cried foul. Only Flavien Prat and Country House’s jockey did and he was not affected by any foul. He got beaten by Maximum Security fairly and squarely (the better horse that day). I hope that decision will eventually get reversed to attribute the win to the right horse. In my opinion that day Jose Ortiz lost any respect I had for him.

  • @montanawarren8462

    @montanawarren8462

    2 жыл бұрын

    To see the true clip of the race and not the edited version go to Ann Old father's view of it... War of Will's mouth was wide open the whole way around there the jockey could not handle him he's the one that ducked behind Maximum Security with his white eye and all...he did the same thing to Mongolian groom who had to be put down for fracturing his hind leg.... Casse finally put blinkers on him.... I wonder why?

  • @danmar2227
    @danmar22274 жыл бұрын

    A big CONTREVERSY

  • @Antonio-Mlb
    @Antonio-Mlb4 жыл бұрын

    What people don't realize is horses are doped quite often. Bob Baffert used to dope his horses all the time. This is unfortunate but in my eyes MS is a winner and will always be a champion.

  • @TVY2013

    @TVY2013

    4 жыл бұрын

    Excuse my ignorance; I know nothing about horse racing. Does doping consistent to steroids and is the urine of the horse tested a certain amount of time before or after racing?

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love dummy's like Antonio..they dream of drugs and make crazy accusations with zero knowledge....horse racing is a great sport that is highly regulated...try giving people the benefit of doubt and become a positive influence rather than a negative in the horse industry...

  • @stanweiser3927

    @stanweiser3927

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tvy...Horses are tested by urine and blood samples before and after races...Drugs are given by Doctors (vets)..for illness and inury their are strict rules for disobedience concerning illigal drug use..penalties are severe....

  • @TVY2013

    @TVY2013

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stanweiser3927 Appreciate your feedback; I would have thought so, but with so much controversy over the years re. doping in humans and presumably so much money on the line in racing, I was curious just how stringent testing was in racing (i.e. whether there were "tricks"/means of masking administration of an illegal substance. ) Again, this is totally out of my field, so it's good to get the opinion of those involved/monitoring the sport.

  • @Antonio-Mlb

    @Antonio-Mlb

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stanweiser3927 Thats great to here that im loved dummys and morons in love. THANKS!

  • @jeromecastro3371
    @jeromecastro33712 жыл бұрын

    I dont like to win this way ... Country house trainer said.... What a shame.... 😔😔😔

  • @HTownFrog
    @HTownFrog3 жыл бұрын

    What a mess

  • @kiepyon1
    @kiepyon13 жыл бұрын

    That why i watch japanese horse racing

  • @kaitlin6789
    @kaitlin67894 жыл бұрын

    I know why war of will"s jockey did not object. It is because war of will struck maximum security many times before his jockey pulled him up.

  • @agustindejesus7398
    @agustindejesus73984 жыл бұрын

    The camara is on Mr Servis face at the time the number 7 was disqualified. Yes, Mr Servis shows no emotion at all. Any other person will have been, mad, arguing, cursing, or crying. Come on, it is the Derby, and that kind of money is not given away every day.

  • @bertmustin
    @bertmustin3 жыл бұрын

    It feels like there shouldn't be a winner of the race.

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